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LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #562

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I have heared this line so many times and i really can't get what they wanted to tell. What is love for you? Is it really a "state of the mind"? :smitten: Please explain your answer.  ;D

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #573

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Wow ,now thats difficult. I guess it is a state of mind but remember sometimes your mind plays tricks on you. Do you follow me?
I'm so amazingly clever that I often have to give up trying to understand what I'm saying.

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #575

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I'm no expert at this so i'll just let my cousin do the talking for now. :-[

Bryan Adams - State Of Mind Lyrics

I know that you're curious,
So don't be serious,
You know there's no cause for alarm.

When you're down - out
Left here in doubt,
All the things that are right will go wrong.

Love is a state of mind,
It's keepin' us both alive,
Sometimes it's hard to find.
Love's in a state of mind.

Wait just a minute,
You know that it's finished,
So don't you go carry it on.

Cause I'm down - out
Left here in doubt,
Well, we try but we can't get along.

Love is a state of mind,
It's keepin' us both alive,
Sometimes it's hard to find.
Love's in a state of mind.
Baguiophoria!

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #578

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wahahaha.. cousin huh.. ahehehe  :2funny:

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #589

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I've seen several experiments on the television explaining attraction and love. Most of their experiments are based on animal attraction instincts. Like female birds are attracted to males with good capability in building nests and males select females with good genes basing on their superficial attributes. And... the issue on pheromones. They say, if you have good health and good genes, females can smell it trough the pheromones you release from the hole just above your nostrils and vice versa.

Why are men attracted to females with large breasts? Because they believe that those can produce the milk necessary for their offspring.

Why are men attracted to females with a nice butt? Because they belive that those can produce more offsprings that contains the males gene.

Why are women attracted to men with a lot of money? Because they know that her offspings are secured with a good nest and stable food supply.

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #593

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nice analogies. so love is a state of mind like when a guy sees a girl with big boobs and big butt he feels love and thinks, hey this chick can give me more offspring and produce lots of milk for them.

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #905

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nice one[quote author=ArchAugust™ link=topic=117.msg575#msg575 date=1152161670]
I'm  no expert at this so i'll just let my cousin do the talking for  now. :-[

Bryan Adams - State Of Mind Lyrics

I  know that you're curious,
So don't be serious, <br  />You know there's no cause for alarm.

When you're  down - out
Left here in doubt,
All the things that are  right will go wrong.

Love is a state of mind, <br  />It's keepin' us both alive,
Sometimes it's hard  to find.
Love's in a state of mind.

Wait just a  minute,
You know that it's finished,
So don't you  go carry it on.

Cause I'm down - out
Left here  in doubt,
Well, we try but we can't get along.
<br  />Love is a state of mind,
It's keepin' us both alive,  
Sometimes it's hard to find.
Love's in a state of  mind.
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&quot;just be true  to urself is the best&quot;

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 10 months ago #2084

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Love? A lot of strange things. Too overwhelming for people to contain, too indespensable that you can't live without.

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 8 months ago #25852

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I have posted this in another forum, but post it again here also, so here we go:

I think we need to come to the realization that "feelings" are great, but the real test of love is when the pressure's on and everything seems to be going to hell in a hand basket. This is when we need to remember that love is a decision even more than it is a set of feelings. Sometimes we need to call upon our rational natures, overrule our feelings, and decide to love the other.

In a classic "which came first" question, most people would protest that "love should come first," then the mind will follow. What people mean by this is that feelings of being "in love" should come before we decide that we're in love with another person, a kind of "engage feelings before putting mind in gear." Unfortunately this approach doesn't have a very good track record. When we allow our feelings to dictate our reactions to other people, we wind up on an emotional roller coaster, falling in and out of "love" with alarming regularity.

That's why love is a decision, not "pheromonal attraction," not "two sets of pupils dilating at the same time," and not "I love how you touch me!" When we realize this, we can decide, indeed must decide, sometimes as often as moment to moment, that "yes, I choose to love this person." Put another way: "engage brain before putting emotions in gear!"
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Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 8 months ago #25868

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I have posted this in another forum, but post it again here also, so here we go:

I think we need to come to the realization that "feelings" are great, but the real test of love is when the pressure's on and everything seems to be going to hell in a hand basket. This is when we need to remember that love is a decision even more than it is a set of feelings. Sometimes we need to call upon our rational natures, overrule our feelings, and decide to love the other.

In a classic "which came first" question, most people would protest that "love should come first," then the mind will follow. What people mean by this is that feelings of being "in love" should come before we decide that we're in love with another person, a kind of "engage feelings before putting mind in gear." Unfortunately this approach doesn't have a very good track record. When we allow our feelings to dictate our reactions to other people, we wind up on an emotional roller coaster, falling in and out of "love" with alarming regularity.

That's why love is a decision, not "pheromonal attraction," not "two sets of pupils dilating at the same time," and not "I love how you touch me!" When we realize this, we can decide, indeed must decide, sometimes as often as moment to moment, that "yes, I choose to love this person." Put another way: "engage brain before putting emotions in gear!".


that  is  why  i am  happy that  Roald  is  here....
at  least  a  man  with  an  experience  can  say things  better, because  he can identify  with  what he is saying hehehe..... O0
i like  the line.... LOVE is  a  DECISION... which  is  really  true,  it is not just  a  feeling...
We are free up to the point of choice then the choice controls the chooser....

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 8 months ago #26076

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that  is  why  i am  happy that  Roald  is  here....
at  least  a  man  with  an  experience  can  say things  better, because  he can identify  with  what he is saying hehehe..... O0
i like  the line.... LOVE is  a  DECISION... which  is  really  true,  it is not just  a  feeling...
If only the females could comprehend it... hehehe
Life would be so much easier for us guys.  8)
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Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 8 months ago #26163

hey Roald, what's up? been a while and im surprise you just posted now in this site...

yeah, i wish life would be easier for us guys. gurls learn to love your man for what he is and not what you want. guys aren't afraid to go down on you, trust me. they'll do it, even their knees hurt 'coz they don't want to hurt your feelings hehehe... i'll hope like Roald, you gurls can comprehend this. hehehe...
LESS NAG, MORE SHAG

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 8 months ago #26174

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Hello there charles.
I was asked a couple of times to join, but did not have time until now.
Then I decided to take a look, and found many names I recognised. So here I am, trying to make it unsafe for the ladies.  >
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Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 7 months ago #33756

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Love is not a state of mind... it's based within the concept of descriptive language.

Love may be knowable and comprehensible to others, as understood in the phrases,
"I am in love", "I love you", but what 'love' means in these sentences may not be analyzed further that is, the concept 'love' is irreducible, or self-evident conditon that needs no further intellectual operation.

The nature of love asks how we may know love, how we may understand it, whether it is possible  to say it to  others or ourselves being in love.

If love is purely an emotional condition, it is reasonable to argue that it remains a private phenomenon incapable of being accessed by others, except through an expression of language, and language may be a poor indicator of an emotional state both for the listener and the subject.

Some would hold that the sentence "I am in love"  cannot be changed into other statements because it is a nonpropositional utterance, hence its truth is beyond examination.

That 'love' cannot be examined is different from  claiming 'love' should not be subject to examination-that it should be put or left beyond the mind's reach, out of a dutiful respect for its mysteriousness, its awesome, divine, or romantic nature.

But if it is agreed that there is such a thing as 'love' conceptually speaking, when people present statements concerning love such as "she should show more love", then an inquiry seems appropriate.  Questions like: Is it the same  with certain patterns of behavior, of inflections in the voice or manner, or by the apparent pursuit and protection of a particular value.

For example, "Look at how he cares  for her - he must love her!

If love does possess  a nature' which is identified by some means-a personal expression, an obvious  pattern of behavior, or other activity, it can still be asked whether that nature can be properly understood by humanity.

Love may have a nature, yet we may not possess the proper intellectual capacity to understand it-accordingly, we may gain glimpses perhaps of its essence  but its true nature being forever beyond humanity's intellectual grasp.

Only those who  had and have experienced it can know its nature.

Accordingly, 'love' belongs either to the higher faculties of all, understanding of which requires being educated in some manner or form.

The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.
with echoes of deliverance....

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 7 months ago #33810

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Love may have a nature, yet we may not possess the proper intellectual capacity to understand it-accordingly, we may gain glimpses perhaps of its essence  but its true nature being forever beyond humanity's intellectual grasp.

Only those who  had and have experienced it can know its nature.

Accordingly, 'love' belongs either to the higher faculties of all, understanding of which requires being educated in some manner or form.

The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.


Just a query...

I find these very contradicting: you said its true nature is beyond our intellectual grasp and, the young and experienced others are not romantic people.

How can you say that the young and experienced are incapable of being romantic? Is experience the graduation of love? So it means the more experienced you are, the more you know about love? If love is beyond our intellectual grasp... What made you arrive at these conclusions? 

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The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.




I totally disagree!

very very subjective!

LOVE is not that cheap where people painstakingly keeps on defining it and putting boundaries on it. Sometimes, we don't need to think to feel it!
Love is an illness cured by marriage!

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 7 months ago #34087

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The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.




I totally disagree!

very very subjective!

LOVE is not that cheap where people painstakingly keeps on defining it and putting boundaries on it. Sometimes, we don't need to think to feel it!




you have a point there jim.....  O0 Love really has no boundaries. Love is not love if you put those boundaries....

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Love is Love as mangoes are mangoes

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 7 months ago #35451

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Love may have a nature, yet we may not possess the proper intellectual capacity to understand it-accordingly, we may gain glimpses perhaps of its essence  but its true nature being forever beyond humanity's intellectual grasp.

Only those who  had and have experienced it can know its nature.

Accordingly, 'love' belongs either to the higher faculties of all, understanding of which requires being educated in some manner or form.

The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.


Just a query...

I find these very contradicting: you said its true nature is beyond our intellectual grasp and, the young and experienced others are not romantic people.

How can you say that the young and experienced are incapable of being romantic? Is experience the graduation of love? So it means the more experienced you are, the more you know about love? If love is beyond our intellectual grasp... What made you arrive at these conclusions? 

The Fullness of Love is measured by the degree of the risks and sacrifices a person experienced with someone...  Notwithstanding,  it entails moral responsibilities...

The young ones are usually driven by impulsive needs/wants.... they could be romantic in the sense of displaying affection but not that "romantic" [in the sense that i use the word] wherein it encompasses the wholeness of what love truly takes.

Experience is indeed a graduation wherein a person could really say that he/she  has already loved someone...

Its beyond our intellectual grasp since no one and nobody could ever define it... it's relative... almost everything could be a metaphor of love... and no two people have the same perception of it....  I read in one of your anecdotes about people's own world... that concept holds true in matters of love too.
with echoes of deliverance....

Re: LOVE... Is it really a state of the mind? 5 years, 7 months ago #35452

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The young and inexperienced others are not romantic people.  They are but  doomed only to feel physical desire.




I totally disagree!

very very subjective!

since when have  matters of the heart become objective?

LOVE is not that cheap where people painstakingly keeps on defining it and putting boundaries on it. Sometimes, we don't need to think to feel it!

Who said we have to define it... its undefinable.  You already asserted it.

People who define it are only rationalizing what they  have experienced. Little do they know that Love can't never be rationalized... It could only be understood as it is... zero-verbality.

with echoes of deliverance....
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